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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184650770" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184650770">(Jan 02 2020 at 13:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hi <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="897">@T-compiler/meeting</span> ; the triage meeting will be starting in 1 hours 32 minutes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184650810" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184650810">(Jan 02 2020 at 13:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>I will be doing <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202020-01-02.20.2354818/near/184650792" title="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202020-01-02.20.2354818/near/184650792">pre-triage in a parallel topic</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184650866" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184650866">(Jan 02 2020 at 13:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>This week we have scheduled checkin's with WG-learning and WG-llvm</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184650897" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184650897">(Jan 02 2020 at 13:30)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> are you available to present any checkin stuff from WG-learning?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184650931" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184650931">(Jan 02 2020 at 13:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me just realized that one of the tasks for each T-compiler meeting should probably be to establish an appropriate zulip topics for <em>next week's</em> WG checkins</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184651026" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184651026">(Jan 02 2020 at 13:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>as for WG-llvm, I think its fair to say its status as a WG may have been misplaced. We <em>do</em> need a dedicated zulip stream, but the lack of focused/specific goals has really made it a mostly inactive thing as far as formal WG's go.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184654568" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184654568">(Jan 02 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
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<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> are you available to present any checkin stuff from WG-learning?</p>
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<p>I'm packing to leave for vacations but is WG-learning time again?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184654572" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184654572">(Jan 02 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>didn't we do it last time?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184654682" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184654682">(Jan 02 2020 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me looks</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184654777" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184654777">(Jan 02 2020 at 14:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>I have no idea when it was last visited. I'm just relying on the website to tell me the truth about the checkin schedule.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184654802" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184654802">(Jan 02 2020 at 14:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway its no problem. <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> I assume you can report in from WG-learning instead.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184654834" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184654834">(Jan 02 2020 at 14:29)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> let me check but this seems like the 2000 year problem that just happened in 2020 <span aria-label="joy" class="emoji emoji-1f602" role="img" title="joy">:joy:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184654858" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184654858">(Jan 02 2020 at 14:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>omg</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184654921" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184654921">(Jan 02 2020 at 14:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>we did a checkin on 2019-12-05</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184654922" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184654922">(Jan 02 2020 at 14:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>well maybe it's time? I don't think so</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184654973" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184654973">(Jan 02 2020 at 14:31)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019-12-05.20.2354818/near/182673783" title="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019-12-05.20.2354818/near/182673783">https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202019-12-05.20.2354818/near/182673783</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184655065" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184655065">(Jan 02 2020 at 14:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe part of issue is that we skipped last week's meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184655070" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184655070">(Jan 02 2020 at 14:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>so it seems like time has moved faster than it has. Or maybe other way around.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184655167" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184655167">(Jan 02 2020 at 14:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>in any case, there's not much update from learning WG :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184656793" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184656793">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hi <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="897">@T-compiler/meeting</span>! Add a <span aria-label="wave" class="emoji emoji-1f44b" role="img" title="wave">:wave:</span> emoji to show you're here :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184656945" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184656945">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh lets have five minutes for ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184656949" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184656949">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:03)</a>:</h4>
<h1>Announcements</h1>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184656963" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184656963">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>Happy New Year</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657060" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657060">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:04)</a>:</h4>
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<li>I have a PR to extract <code>rustc_hir</code> from <code>rustc</code>, <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67803" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67803">#67803</a></li>
<li>Myself and <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116118">@Matthew Jasper</span>  have written a stabilization report &amp; proposal for <code>slice_patterns</code>, <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67712" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67712">#67712</a></li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657062" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657062">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>so this isn't exactly an announcement, but this is as good a time as any to ask</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657081" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657081">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>I want to find out what IDE/editors the rustc-developers use for hacking on rustc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657117" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Zoxc <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657117">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>VS Code + rust_analyzer</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657120" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657120">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>what's best here, a poll maybe</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657134" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657134">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>/poll What IDE/editor do you use</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657136" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657136">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me uses rust-analyzer + VSCode, hooked up via sshfs to my ubuntu server</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657163" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657163">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh, lets leave off whichj rust support system</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657170" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657170">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>sorry I did not make this lear</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657203" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657203">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>clear</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657211" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657211">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>the reason why I'm asking</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657229" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657229">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>is because I wwant to know which platforms we should put effort into improving the rust-analyzer experience on</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657238" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657238">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>in order to encourage dogfooding of rust-analyzer</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657256" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657256">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>we have stats for users I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657257" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657257">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>hm, isn't rust-analyzer universal via LSP anyway? (or pretty much so?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657276" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657276">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>unless I misunderstood platform</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657280" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657280">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>I just want to make sure the barrier for entry is truly minimized</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657311" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657311">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> you are asserting that LSP integration is trivial for all platforms of note? Honestly I do not know either way here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657366" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657366">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:08)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="133169">@matklad</span>  would ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657401" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Zoxc <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657401">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>There's Rust specific extensions on top of LSP which are important too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657418" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657418">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm interested in a survey of rustc devs regardless; I think it would be good to include material in the rustc-guide for how to setup as well</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657442" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657442">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess -- maybe I should ask -- what are we interested in?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657448" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657448">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's very easy for VSCode + RA; just install RA and you're basically good to go</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657449" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657449">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>Editor? OS?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657554" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657554">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>For me the questions are: 1. Which IDE/editor do you use to hack on rustc; 2. Do you use rust-analyzer? 3. If yes, how does your workflow with it compare to prior to RA? 4. If no, why not?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657587" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657587">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>lets plan to do the survey via email or something</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657606" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657606">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>because I think relying on responses at meeting is going to omit contributors.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657615" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657615">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>(niko had already advised me to do this via email. I just, didn't.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657620" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657620">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay next up</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657667" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657667">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>(one note -- we should maybe send it to some wider group, I guess -- not sure that compiler@ is good enough)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657680" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657680">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>compiler-contributors @ ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657683" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657683">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>here is today's <a href="https://hackmd.io/CArpcPb4SISA3-DhRT4nvA?both" target="_blank" title="https://hackmd.io/CArpcPb4SISA3-DhRT4nvA?both">hackmd agenda</a>.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657687" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657687">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:12)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="mailto:compiler-team@rust-lang.org" title="mailto:compiler-team@rust-lang.org">compiler-team@rust-lang.org</a> includes contributors</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657691" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657691">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>jfyi</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657709" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657709">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>(the <code>-private</code> variation does not)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657725" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657725">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>right, I meant that even contributors is pretty limited</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657729" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657729">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe an inside rust blog post would be a better fit?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657731" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657731">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe github issue?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657732" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657732">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh there was one more announcement: I think my <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/2834" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/2834">report future incompat RFC</a> is near its "final form"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657740" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657740">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:13)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>maybe an inside rust blog post would be a better fit?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>interesting idea.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657799" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657799">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay so, today's agenda</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657814" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657814">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>we have a lot of beta noms to get through, I assume in part because we skipped a week's meeting.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657824" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657824">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>beta-nom: "Do not ICE on lifetime error involving closures" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67687" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67687">#67687</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657850" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657850">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>a bit heavy</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657875" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657875">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems pretty harmless to me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657925" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657925">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>does it have tests for generator case?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657958" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657958">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>I agree it seems harmless. Just surprised that of the two main  cases it added, I think it only tests one?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184657975" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184657975">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>but that's more a comment on the PR itself, rather than the choice on whether to backport</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658000" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658000">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway I figure beta-approved.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658022" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> matklad <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658022">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:17)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>hm, isn't rust-analyzer universal via LSP anyway? (or pretty much so?)</p>
</blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> 80% so, as we do indeed use custom extensions, which we really should be upstreaming into the protocol...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658034" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658034">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>beta-nom: "Treat extern statics just like statics in the “const pointer to static” representation" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67630" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67630">#67630</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658110" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658110">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>not landed on master</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658116" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658116">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>we can wait until next week on this?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658129" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658129">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>discussion on PR doesn't feel very confidence-inspiring</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658160" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658160">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>lets just hold off making a decision for now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658178" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658178">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>waiting sgtm... <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> did t-lang have mtg today btw?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658180" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658180">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>beta-nom: "Use the correct type for static qualifs" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67621" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67621">#67621</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658190" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658190">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:19)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>waiting sgtm... <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> did t-lang have mtg today btw?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658192" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658192">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>I at least didn't cancel it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658239" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658239">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>who will show I don't know :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658305" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658305">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:21)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116118">@Matthew Jasper</span> is this somehow related to default binding modes?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658340" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658340">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>(ugh... but statics use identifiers, not patterns... so what am I saying)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658397" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658397">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>doesn't look like it :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658422" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658422">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>the code itself here is maybe subtle, but this change seems like purely a good thing?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658477" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658477">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes, the change seemed a bit subtle, but smallish and I figured I trusted <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116118">@Matthew Jasper</span> on this point</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658509" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658509">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>do you understand why the test needed to use &amp;&amp; instead of just &amp; ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658562" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658562">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh I guess the thing being promoted is the &amp;Option&lt;String&gt;</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658580" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658580">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay I guess i can follow along with it.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658593" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658593">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>beta-accepted</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658625" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658625">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>beta-nom: "Don’t suppress move errors for union fields" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67314" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67314">#67314</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658737" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658737">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>am I wrong to be nervous about code using <code>get_or_insert</code> having unexpectred effects...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658775" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658775">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh I guess its fine</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658786" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658786">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>(the state being updated is newly added here, not preexisting)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658794" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658794">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:27)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>am I wrong to be nervous about code using get_or_insert having unexpectred effects...</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Stateful code in general gives me that feeling :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658809" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658809">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay I loaded enough of this back into my mental cache to restore confidence personally</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658859" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658859">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>I found it a bit tricky to review, which is why I asked for a comment (when reviewing, the comment is in the PR)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658878" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658878">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I think it's harmless enough :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658885" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658885">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>beta approved I figure.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184658910" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184658910">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>beta-nom: "Do not ICE on unnamed future" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67289" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67289">#67289</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659034" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659034">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me <strong>really</strong> needs  to figure out Zulip API... gotta script this stuff...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659047" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659047">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah this is truly harmless</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659048" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659048">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>adding the emojis is annoying, yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659055" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659055">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>beta approved</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659077" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659077">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>beta-nom: "Fix up Command Debug output when arg0 is specified." <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67219" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67219">#67219</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659080" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659080">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>wrong team?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659097" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659097">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>or both teams</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659103" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659103">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>why <em>are</em> we on this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659119" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659119">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:31)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> ^ ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659121" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659121">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>hm, I forget what my logic was</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659122" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659122">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>that is the question</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659131" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659131">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess I was thinking "someone should see this" :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659175" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659175">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>heh</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659178" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659178">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not sure libs has a process inplace for approving things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659181" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659181">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>gotcha</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659196" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659196">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>the only issue I can see</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659202" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659202">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>is the formatting of the <code>self.program</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659212" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659212">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>putting it in square brackets</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659232" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659232">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>a beta backport here is essentially instantly committing to that choice</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659261" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659261">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>versus allowing some play over course of time in nightly, e.g. letting someone claim it should not have any annotation, or a different one...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659270" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659270">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>isn't it unstable?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659339" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659339">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>we are currently printing <code>rustc rustc arg arg arg</code> vs. <code>rustc arg arg arg</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659343" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659343">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>(on beta)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659351" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659351">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:34)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>a beta backport here is essentially instantly committing to that choice</p>
</blockquote>
<p>We don't guarantee the output of <code>Debug</code> impls generally</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659352" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659352">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah okay we've gotta do something about the regression</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659361" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659361">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>but for that should we revert the original PR ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659368" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659368">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659402" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659402">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ah I see I actually wrote down my reasoning: "I tagged with T-compiler and T-libs; but I feel fairly confident that we just want to backport this. If T-compiler decides not to approve we'll want to ping T-libs as they don't generally notice otherwise I think."</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659432" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659432">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>heh</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659441" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659441">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>this is specifically the Debug impl output only?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659444" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659444">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>well I guess we can leave the final decision here in the hands of T-libs. I personally would be more inclined to revert the PR that added the feature to <code>Command</code>.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659474" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659474">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>if so, it seems ... odd but "ok"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659499" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659499">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>I mean not <em>odd</em> just kind of random, not an established convention</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659506" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659506">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>and independnently we should figure out where we are exposing the use of the <code>Debug</code> format from within <code>rustc</code> (or <code>cargo</code> ?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659528" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659528">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay, I will ping libs and try and get it raised in time with folks</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659554" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659554">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can write a comment with my own preference here on the issue, just to have it recorded.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659563" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659563">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>(but yes I agree it doesn't really seem like 'our call')</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659567" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659567">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll try to remember to do so post meeting.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659584" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659584">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay that's all the beta-noms</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659591" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659591">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>there's just one stable nom</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659639" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659639">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>stable-nom "Do not ICE on lifetime error involving closures" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67687" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67687">#67687</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659705" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659705">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>already noted that this seemed a little bit heavy weight</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659728" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659728">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>is it just me or is hackmd having a fit?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659751" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659751">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>(e.g. can the injected <code>.typeck_tables_of(self.mir_def_id)</code> cause new errors to arise? Its the kind of thing I don't mind landing on beta, but the bar for stable is higher...)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659780" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659780">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:40)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>is it just me or is hackmd having a fit?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>i'm getting that too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659880" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659880">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway I'm inclined to say we don't stable-approve <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67687" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67687">#67687</a>, but I'm open to counter-arguments.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659893" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659893">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>I feel similarly inclined but not strongly</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659903" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659903">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:41)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> do you now if the lookuip I mentioned above is guaranteed to not panic?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659916" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Esteban Küber <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659916">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm ok with not approving it for stable</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659972" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Esteban Küber <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659972">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>Noting that the pack of generator test wouldn't affect stable</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659981" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659981">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay, I figure if the PR author acquesces then we don't need to debate. :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659990" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659990">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:42)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> do you now if the lookuip I mentioned above is guaranteed to not panic?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>you mean the <code>bug!</code> call?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184659998" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184659998">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>no, the <code>.typeck_tables_of(self.mir_def_id)</code> call</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660007" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660007">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess that itself wont panic</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660027" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660027">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>that is guaranteed to be ok</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660033" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660033">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>iiuc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660035" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660035">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>since we are in borrowck</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660042" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660042">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>and likewise <code>.node_type(fn_hir_id)</code> ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660057" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660057">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>though whether the <code>bug!</code> could trigger .. I think no but I wouldn't be shocked to be wrong</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660073" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Esteban Küber <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660073">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think the only case that would panic is if we have very malformed code that has gone through multiple layers of recovery.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660091" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660091">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>...which is not unheard of... ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660092" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660092">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>how bad is the diagnostic when we hit this case</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660122" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Esteban Küber <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660122">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ice</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660124" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660124">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>pretty bad, no span</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660166" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Esteban Küber <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660166">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>Without any info</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660168" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660168">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>right</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660182" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660182">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>can we add a span to that <code>bug!</code> ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660199" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660199">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>(and if we did, would I be more inclined to support backport... hmm....)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660209" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Esteban Küber <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660209">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>Which makes me think we could dump all non emitted disgnotivbuilders when we hit an Ice</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660242" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660242">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm mostly thinking that we need to discuss other things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660247" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660247">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>(on the mtg)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660252" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660252">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660288" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660288">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>How about if we wait a week to decide here too?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660335" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660335">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems ok</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660346" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660346">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>the lack of diagnostic info here makes me pause from just turning down backport outright</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660351" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660351">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660361" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660361">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>(does anyone recall the agenda now that hackmd seems borked? :P)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660362" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660362">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>of course, we have lost the hackmd now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660386" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660386">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>but there's still the standing agenda I generated that from (linked in zulip topic)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660401" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660401">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>let's discuss the async regression perhaps?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660427" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660427">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>nominated: "Major async/await compiler performance regression" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67706" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67706">#67706</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660440" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660440">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>PR <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/65244" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/65244">#65244</a> was identified as cause, and there was a trial revert PR posted</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660492" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660492">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>trial revert is PR <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67768" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67768">#67768</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660499" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660499">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>Same PR also caused <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67757" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67757">#67757</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660516" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660516">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems clear we should revert</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660535" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660535">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think so too; unfortunate <span aria-label="frown" class="emoji emoji-1f641" role="img" title="frown">:frown:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660542" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660542">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>does anyone present object to reverting PR <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/65244" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/65244">#65244</a> ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660547" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660547">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, ideally somebody would work to figure out and get it landed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660564" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660564">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess we can kick that to <a class="stream" data-stream-id="187312" href="/#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations">#wg-async-foundations</a> (cc <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116883">@tmandry</span>, we should discuss...)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660576" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660576">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>did we forget to perftest the PR...? seems like we did an oopsie here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660599" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660599">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>the revert was perftested?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660643" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660643">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>or you mean the original PR <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/65244" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/65244">#65244</a> ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660649" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660649">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>no I mean the original PR</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660657" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660657">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>to be fair, its not like we perftest everything</p>



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<p>I guess we may want guidelines about that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660691" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660691">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah maybe; though no biggie, we figured it out in time after</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660692" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660692">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>heuristics for what kinds of changes in past have caused perf issues. (At least, I <em>think</em> we've had similar problems when adding core traits in the past?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660702" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660702">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>(side note, I think part of the problem was the combination of impl + "do we want to do this", which led to a long delay, etc etc)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660715" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660715">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>at least I think for me that tends to lead to "suboptimal reviewing"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660720" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660720">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway I think it's fine, this is what nightly is for :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660725" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660725">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>great point <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660735" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660735">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes I would not expect perftest necessarily on a PR like this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660741" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660741">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>(certainly e.g. I didn't suggest it, though was aware of the PR)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660794" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660794">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>otoh, we should be somewhat eager to revert I think given (unexpected) perf failures</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660809" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660809">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>which roughly seems consensus anyway</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660817" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660817">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay I left a comment</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660839" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660839">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>I also wanted us to discuss a beta regression</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660841" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660841">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>nominated: "not Send due to await retainment" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67611" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67611">#67611</a></p>



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<p>mostly I wanted to make sure <em>someone</em> gets assigned to look into this.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660871" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660871">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:53)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> do you think we can "just" delegate to the Async-Await WG ?</p>



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<p>/me looks</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660948" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660948">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>if we do not know if anyone has time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660957" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660957">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>then I will assign this to myself</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660970" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660970">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>actually, let me just assign it to myself, if only to follow up and find someone else to actually investigate</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660971" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660971">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it'd be ok to delegate but we should leave a comment indicating the urgency</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660977" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660977">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>that said, it won't be looked at likely until next tue</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184660989" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184660989">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>(if we just do that)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661001" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661001">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay. I self assigned. If I find time in next few days then I'll look at it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661005" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661005">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>either way we should add the <code>A-async-await</code> label, and discuss probably in <a class="stream" data-stream-id="187312" href="/#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations">#wg-async-foundations</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661014" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661014">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I could try to look a bit tomorrow if desired too)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661095" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661095">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wonder if this too is related to <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/65244" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/65244">#65244</a>?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661099" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661099">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>what tag do I add so that WG-Async-Await will triage this themselves?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661105" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661105">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>it will already happen</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661109" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661109">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>it has the A-async-await label</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661113" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661113">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>and it does NOT have the AsyncAwait-triaged label</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661114" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661114">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661117" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661117">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's the key combination :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661161" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661161">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661167" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661167">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>So</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661170" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661170">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>the only other thing is WG checkins</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661190" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661190">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:57)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> said that somethnig may be funky with the WG checkin scheduling</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661237" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661237">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>but according to our own web site, today is WG-llvm and WG-learning</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661269" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661269">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll just assert that there's nothing to report from WG-llvm (other than my own insight into tracking down a particular LLVM bug)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661280" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661280">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think much new has happened with learning, we're about the land the "intro to <code>Ty</code>" chapter</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661283" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661283">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>((tl;dr: sometimes you can use <code>clang</code> rather than trying to construct a <code>.ll</code> input)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661291" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661291">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>well I shouldn't say "we"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661297" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661297">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>as <em>I</em> just reviewed it :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661313" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661313">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>that is part of landing process</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661320" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661320">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not really the best to give a report though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661322" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661322">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway sounds great</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661328" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661328">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I think that's exciting news regardless</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661333" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661333">(Jan 02 2020 at 15:59)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> said not much had happened</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661378" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661378">(Jan 02 2020 at 16:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, I do think there was some bug in the scheduling, as I definitely recall doing llvm/learning recently</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661386" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661386">(Jan 02 2020 at 16:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>or maybe as you said it's just b/c holidays</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661389" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661389">(Jan 02 2020 at 16:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay then. great meeting all, we actually got through all the beta nominations! That's an accomplsihment.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661395" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661395">(Jan 02 2020 at 16:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>of sorts</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661397" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661397">(Jan 02 2020 at 16:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me is really excited about the crate-splitting that has been going on, e.g. by <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="248906">@cjgillot</span>  <span aria-label="slight smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="slight smile">:slight_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661405" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661405">(Jan 02 2020 at 16:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>btw-- an announcement-- we have the next planning meeting scheduled for tomorrow</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661414" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661414">(Jan 02 2020 at 16:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh right</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661428" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661428">(Jan 02 2020 at 16:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>gotta get those proposal PR's posted, all!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661464" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661464">(Jan 02 2020 at 16:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway, thanks for attending everyone in <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="897">@T-compiler/meeting</span> !</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly%20meeting%202020-01-02%20%2354818/near/184661536" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/weekly.20meeting.202020-01-02.20.2354818.html#184661536">(Jan 02 2020 at 16:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me goes to do some reviewing</p>



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